Fog as Evidence

A discussion between Daphne du Maurier and Dashiell Hammett


We met in a rented house on the Cornish coast, which was du Maurier’s idea and, I suspected, a test. She wanted to see whether we could talk about atmosphere without invoking it as an abstraction. The house gave us no choice. It was a squat granite thing backed against the cliff with windows that faced the sea and doors that didn’t quite close. Salt had gotten into the wood over decades, and every threshold had swollen into a kind of permanent protest against its frame. The kitchen smelled of stone and old cooking fat. There were three chairs around a table meant for two, so someone always had to sit with the wall at their back.

Hammett chose the wall. He sat with the easy looseness of a man who’d spent decades making other people nervous by looking relaxed. He’d brought a flask and a cigarette case, and he set both on the table without offering either, which was a form of generosity I didn’t understand until later — he was letting us pretend they weren’t there.

Du Maurier stood at the window with her arms folded. The fog was coming in off the water like something with intentions.

“There’s a dead body,” I said, because somebody had to start, and I had been thinking about the assignment for three days without arriving at anything better than that. “A whodunit. A classic one. Clues, deduction, the reveal.”

“Fine,” Hammett said. “Who’s dead?”

“I don’t know yet. I thought we might—”

“Wrong answer.” He hadn’t moved in the chair. He hadn’t even shifted. “You should know who’s dead. You should know why they deserved it, or why they didn’t, and you should know that the difference between those two things is going to matter less than you think.”

Du Maurier turned from the window. “He’s right that you should know who’s dead. He’s wrong about everything else.”

Hammett smiled at that. It was the kind of smile that gave nothing away, which I think was the only kind he had. “Go on.”

“It doesn’t matter whether the victim deserved it,” she said. “What matters is the place. Where did the body fall? What was the weather? What does the house look like in the morning when nobody’s been killed, and what does it look like now? The detective walks in and the house itself has changed. Not because of the blood. Because of the knowing.”

“That’s mood,” Hammett said. “Mood is fine. Mood is decoration.”

“Mood is the investigation.” Du Maurier came to the table but didn’t sit. She rested her hands on the back of the third chair and looked at him the way you look at someone who has said something both intelligent and profoundly wrong. “When I read your work — and I have read your work, Mr. Hammett — the detective enters a room and catalogues the physical facts. The ashtray, the position of the body, who’s wearing what. That is observation. It is very good observation. But it tells the reader only what the detective sees. It does not tell the reader what the room knows.”

“Rooms don’t know things.”

“Every room you’ve ever written knows things. You just pretend it doesn’t.”

There was a silence. The fog had thickened. I could hear the sea but I could no longer see it.

“She’s got a point,” I said, too quickly.

“Don’t referee,” Hammett said. “Write something down.”

I wrote: The room as witness. What the detective sees vs. what the place holds. It wasn’t good enough but it was something.

“Multiple voices,” I said. “The story needs multiple narrators. That’s the constraint. Two or three accounts that overlap, contradict, maybe lie.”

Du Maurier sat down then. She pulled the third chair back and settled into it with the contained precision of someone who has been thinking very hard and is about to say something she isn’t sure about. “That changes things.”

“It makes it a better puzzle,” Hammett said. “Three people, three versions. The reader does the arithmetic.”

“It makes it less a puzzle,” du Maurier said. “Or a different kind. If there are three voices, the question is not just who killed this person. The question is who is telling the truth, and whether truth even has a stable address in this story.”

“Truth always has an address,” Hammett said. “Sometimes the detective is smart enough to find it and sometimes not, but it’s always there. Somebody pulled a trigger or pushed somebody down the stairs and either the forensics bear it out or they don’t.”

“And if the forensics bear out one version but the emotional reality supports another?” Du Maurier was leaning forward now. Her voice had dropped, as it did when she was working through something rather than arguing. “Suppose the person who did it had every reason, and suppose the person who didn’t do it behaves as though they did. Suppose the place itself seems to confirm the wrong story. The fog, the isolation, the house closing in—”

“The house doesn’t close in. The house sits there.”

“You’ve never been in a house that closed in on you?”

Hammett looked at her for a long moment, and something passed between them that I wasn’t privy to. Some recognition, maybe. He unscrewed the flask and took a drink.

“Fine,” he said. “I’ve been in a house that closed in on me. I got out of it by opening the door.”

“And the person who couldn’t open the door?”

“That person’s got my sympathy and my attention. That doesn’t make the house a character.”

I was writing notes as fast as I could. Not because they were giving me a plot — they weren’t — but because the friction between them was the thing. Du Maurier saw a whodunit as an exercise in atmosphere corrupting perception. Hammett saw it as people lying to each other while the facts waited to be assembled. The multiple voices constraint could serve both: each narrator would bring their own weather, their own version of the house, their own set of observed facts that happened to leave different things out.

“What if,” I said, and both of them looked at me with the particular patience writers reserve for people about to say something obvious, “what if the three narrators don’t agree on the house itself? Same rooms, same night, but the place feels different in each version. One narrator gives us the fog and the dread, the house as this oppressive, watching thing. Another gives us straight inventory — furniture, distances, who sat where. And the third—”

“The third is funny about it,” Hammett said.

Du Maurier frowned. “Why funny?”

“Because murder among rich people is always at least a little funny. Nick and Nora knew that. The investigation as social comedy. Everybody performing grief or outrage while really worrying about the will, the reputation, the dinner party that has to be canceled. Wit is an investigative tool. The banter cracks the surface and what’s underneath is worse than the murder.”

“I don’t write comedy,” du Maurier said.

“Nobody’s asking you to. But your Cornwall — your Jamaica Inn, your Manderley — those places are full of people making polite conversation over abysses. That’s comedy. It’s just comedy with the laugh track ripped out.”

She didn’t answer immediately. She looked at the window, where the fog had now erased the sea entirely, and I thought she might be offended, but when she turned back her expression was one of reluctant concession.

“The aunt in Jamaica Inn,” she said quietly. “Patience. She makes small talk. She fusses over the table settings while her husband runs a wrecking operation that murders sailors. That is — yes. Fine. That is a kind of comedy. A horrifying kind.”

“The best kind,” Hammett said.

“So the witty narrator,” I said. “The one who treats the investigation as a social occasion. Who sees through the performances but maybe misses the thing beneath the performances because they’re so busy being clever about the surface.”

Hammett nodded once. “That’s a detective who solves the puzzle and doesn’t solve the story.”

Du Maurier said nothing for a while. She was doing something I recognized — constructing the house in her mind. Not the plot, not the characters, but the physical space. The granite. The fog. The way sound would carry in the rooms. I’d seen this in her work: the setting arrived first and the story grew out of it like something rooted.

“An island,” she said finally. “Or nearly an island. A headland, cut off when the tide comes in. A large house — not grand, but large. The kind of house where someone respectable has lived for a long time, and where respectability has become a kind of fortification.”

“Against what?”

“Against everything. The sea. The neighbors. The family’s own past. The respectability is the first lie in the story, and it’s the one nobody investigates because it looks like the truth.”

“The respectable figure as the real villain,” I said, and then wished I hadn’t been so blunt about it.

“Not the villain,” du Maurier said, and her voice had an edge now. “I don’t write villains. I write people who have arranged their lives around a central deception so successfully that they’ve forgotten it’s a deception. When the murder happens, the deception is at risk. Not the person. The structure.”

Hammett took another pull from the flask. “I’ll buy that. The murder threatens the arrangement, not the people. So the investigation isn’t really about who killed whom. It’s about who needs the arrangement most.”

“And the three narrators,” I pressed, “each have a different relationship to that arrangement.”

“One is inside it,” du Maurier said. “Sustained by it. Sees the house as sanctuary.”

“One is outside it,” Hammett said. “Came for the weekend, saw the cracks, catalogued them.”

“And the third?”

They looked at each other. Neither spoke.

“The third built it,” du Maurier said at last.

“The third can see it falling apart and has decided it doesn’t matter,” Hammett said at the same time.

They were both right, and those were not the same thing, and I wrote both down.

The fog had reached the house. I could feel it in the room — not literally, the windows were shut — but the light had gone gray and soft, and the sound of the sea had become indistinct, and the three of us were sitting in a rented kitchen that had become, for the duration of this conversation, the kind of place du Maurier writes about. A place with weight.

“There’s something else,” Hammett said. He was looking at the table now, at his flask, at the ring of moisture it had left on the wood. “The solution. When the detective figures it out — or when the reader figures it out, which should happen a page before the detective — it has to feel right and it has to not matter.”

“Explain ‘not matter,’” du Maurier said.

“The elegant solution. The reveal. In a good whodunit, the moment you know who did it, there’s this satisfaction — click, the mechanism works, all the pieces fit. And then immediately after that click, you realize that the mechanism was always beside the point. The murder gets solved. The household doesn’t. The arrangement survives, or it doesn’t, but either way the investigation didn’t touch whatever was actually wrong.”

“That I agree with entirely,” du Maurier said, and she sounded surprised to be agreeing with him.

“Don’t sound so shocked.”

“I’m not shocked. I’m disappointed. I was enjoying the argument.”

Hammett laughed. It was a short sound, more acknowledgment than amusement, but it changed something in the room.

I had a question I’d been sitting on for twenty minutes, and I asked it now because the laugh had opened a space. “Does the detective in this story know what they’ve missed? After they solve it — do they know the solution wasn’t enough?”

“No,” du Maurier said.

“Yes,” Hammett said.

They looked at each other again.

“My detective knows,” Hammett said. “That’s the whole point. Sam Spade knows. The Continental Op knows. They solve the case and they go home and they pour a drink and they understand perfectly well that the case was a machine for not looking at something. They see it. They can’t fix it.”

“My protagonists don’t see it,” du Maurier said. “That’s the horror. The narrator of Rebecca never understands what she’s married into. Not really. She accommodates. She adjusts. She builds a new version of the arrangement and moves into it and calls it love.”

“So which is worse?” I asked.

“Mine,” they said, at exactly the same time, and for different reasons neither of them elaborated.

The fog was fully in the house now. I mean that metaphorically. I mean that we had been talking about atmosphere and deception and the things that investigation can’t reach, and the conversation had taken on the quality of those very things — something obscured, something not quite resolving, something that the three of us could feel but not name.

I closed my laptop. I had enough. Not a plot, not a structure, but a set of tensions I could build from: atmosphere versus observation, the house as witness versus the house as furniture, comedy as surface versus comedy as cruelty, the solution that clicks and the problem it doesn’t touch. Three narrators who see the same events through different fog.

“One more thing,” Hammett said, as I was pushing back from the table. “The dialogue. In the story. Whatever these three narrators sound like — make them sound like themselves. Give me one who talks too much and one who talks too little and one who says exactly the right thing at exactly the wrong time.”

“And the descriptions,” du Maurier said. “The sea. The stone. The way the house smells at four in the morning when someone is dead in the upstairs bedroom and the fog is so thick that the ambulance won’t come.”

“The ambulance won’t come anyway,” Hammett said. “It’s a whodunit. The ambulance comes after.”

Du Maurier stood. She had somewhere to be, or she was finished, which for her amounted to the same thing. At the door, she paused.

“Make the house a character,” she said. “I know he disagrees. Make the house a character anyway.”

Hammett waited until she was gone, then screwed the cap back on his flask. “She’s right about the house,” he said. “Don’t tell her I said that.”