The Involuntary Instrument

A discussion between Lisa Kleypas and Robin Hobb


Kleypas arrived first. She chose the booth at the back of the hotel bar, the one with the cracked leather seat and the lamp that gave off more warmth than light. By the time I sat down she had already ordered a glass of Sancerre and was studying the room with the focused attention of someone cataloguing details she might use later — the bartender’s rolled sleeves, the way the couple near the window kept touching their own wrists instead of each other’s.

Hobb came in from the rain. She did not apologize for being late, which I respected. She ordered black tea, and when it arrived in one of those small metal pots that never pour cleanly, she poured it with the care of someone performing a minor act of devotion to herself. She sat across from Kleypas. They had not met before, and the silence between them had the quality of two musicians tuning their instruments in the same room — not hostile, but aware.

“A bond,” I said, because I had been rehearsing an opening for twenty minutes and this was the least terrible version. “A magical bond between two people who did not choose it. A court healer and the king’s spymaster. The bond transmits emotion and physical sensation. They feel what each other feels.”

“An empathy bond,” Kleypas said. She turned the stem of her glass. “That’s not new territory.”

“No. The territory is what people do when they can’t hide.”

“Who can’t hide from whom?” Hobb asked. She had not looked up from her tea.

“Both. It’s mutual. She feels his injuries, his moods. He feels hers.”

“Injuries,” Hobb repeated. She set down her cup. “You need to understand what you’re saying when you say that. If the bond transmits physical sensation — if she feels his wounds, his bruises, the damage he sustains in the work he does — then the bond is not a romance device. It is a form of violence. She is being hurt by his choices, by his profession, by the political machinery he serves. And he knows she’s being hurt, because the bond runs both ways. Every time he takes a beating in service to the crown, he’s beating her.”

The table went quiet. Kleypas was watching Hobb with the sharpened stillness of someone recalibrating.

“That’s the dark reading,” I said.

“That’s the honest reading. You said they didn’t choose this. An unchosen bond that inflicts pain is not a premise for romance. It’s a premise for a horror story about consent.”

Kleypas set her glass down. “Robin, you’re not wrong. But you’re skipping a step. The bond transmits everything — pain, yes, but also pleasure. Desire. The flush of warmth when someone looks at you and you know they see you. If we only examine the bond as a mechanism of suffering, we get a story about captivity. If we examine it as a mechanism of involuntary intimacy — all of it, the agony and the wanting — we get something much more dangerous. We get two people who know each other in ways nobody is meant to.”

“Nobody is meant to,” Hobb said. “Exactly. That’s the violation.”

“And the seduction. Those are the same thing.”

I watched them look at each other across the booth. Kleypas with her chin up, certain. Hobb with her jaw set, equally certain. They were not agreeing. They were describing the same phenomenon from two sides of a wall, and the wall was load-bearing.

“I need both,” I said. “I need both of those things to be true at the same time. The bond is a violation and a seduction. The reader should feel both without being asked to choose.”

Hobb shook her head, not in disagreement but in the way a person shakes off something that landed too close. “You can hold both in the text. I’ve done it. The Wit bond in my books — the bond between human and animal — is treated by the culture as an abomination and by the bonded as the deepest form of intimacy they know. I spent three trilogies refusing to resolve that tension. But the reason it works is that the animal doesn’t speak. The bond is wordless. The moment you make your bond verbal — the moment they’re transmitting structured emotion, intelligible sensation, things that can be interpreted and responded to — you’ve given them a language. And language changes everything. Language means they can lie. They can withhold. They can perform.”

“Can they?” I asked. “If the bond transmits genuine sensation — ”

“People learn to mask pain all the time. An involuntary bond doesn’t make you transparent. It makes you a better liar, because now you have to control not just your face but your entire nervous system.” She paused. “The spymaster would be very good at this.”

Kleypas smiled. It was a smile that had work in it. “Now you’re giving me something. A man whose profession is deception, bonded to a woman who can feel his deceptions happening. Not the content — she can’t read his thoughts — but the texture. The sensation of someone deliberately dampening themselves. Like pressing your hand against a bell to stop the ring. She can feel the silence where feeling should be.”

“She feels the shape of his lies,” I said.

“She feels the effort of his lies. And that’s worse. Because effort means he’s hiding something, and she has to decide whether to trust the man or the bond, and they’re telling her different things.”

Hobb was stirring her tea in a slow circle. She had not added anything to it; the stirring seemed to be a form of thought. “Fitz,” she said. “My Fitz was an assassin who loved the king he was supposed to kill for. No — who was willing to kill for. The distinction mattered to me. He didn’t love killing. He loved the person who required killing of him. And that love was inseparable from the service, which meant it was inseparable from the violence. Every time he killed for his king, it was an act of devotion and an act of self-destruction. There was no clean version.”

“The spymaster,” Kleypas said, leaning forward. “He serves the crown. He gathers intelligence, eliminates threats, does the things that keep the kingdom stable. And the healer — she heals. That’s her gift, her training, her vocation. She mends what’s broken. So you’ve bonded a woman who fixes damage to a man who causes it. And now she feels the causing. Every act of his that breaks something, she experiences as a wound in her own body, and her own magic reaches toward it reflexively — ”

“Trying to heal the damage he’s doing to someone else,” I said. “Through him.”

“Through the bond. Her healing instinct can’t distinguish between his pain and the pain he inflicts. The bond is a circuit, and the current runs both directions. She’s trying to heal the world’s wounds through the body of the man creating them.”

Hobb set down her spoon. “That’s structurally interesting. But you need to decide whether she resents this.”

“Of course she resents this,” Kleypas said.

“Not of course. Resentment is the obvious emotional response, which means it’s the one you should interrogate. What if she doesn’t resent it? What if part of her — a part she can’t admit to anyone, barely to herself — is drawn to the sensation? Not the violence. The proximity to someone who operates at the edge of what a body can endure. The intensity of his experience, flooding through the bond, is more vivid than anything she encounters in her own careful, clean, healing life. He’s a window into a register of existence she’s never accessed.”

Hobb’s expression shifted. Something behind her eyes moved. “You’re describing addiction.”

“I’m describing desire. Which is the same thing, before it has a name.”

“Before it has consequences.”

“Before it has consequences, yes. And the consequences are that she starts needing his experience to feel alive. Not the pain specifically. The volume. He lives at a volume she has never reached, and the bond pipes it directly into her, and she tells herself she hates it the way someone tells themselves they hate the second glass of wine.”

I was writing so fast my handwriting had deteriorated into something only I could decode. “So the attraction isn’t just physical. It’s experiential. She’s attracted to his intensity, his proximity to danger, the sheer amount of sensation he generates.”

“And he,” Hobb said, with the careful emphasis she gives to important corrections, “is attracted to her stillness. Think about what a healer feels like from the other end of that bond. Calm. Warmth. The steady rhythm of someone whose entire training is in restoration. He spends his days in lies and violence and controlled catastrophe, and then the bond opens and there she is — quiet, like a room with good light. He doesn’t fall in love with her. He becomes dependent on the sensation of her. And dependency is not love. It’s the thing that looks like love from the inside, the way a cage looks like a room if you’ve never seen a door.”

Kleypas shook her head. “I disagree. Or — I half disagree. The dependency is real. But you’re describing it as though it precludes love, and I think it precedes love. The dependency comes first. The raw, animal need for what the other person feels like through the bond. And then — slowly, painfully, through conversations that cost them both more than they can afford — they begin to know each other as people rather than sensations. And the love, when it arrives, is built on a foundation of physical knowledge that most couples never achieve. They’ve been inside each other’s nervous systems. They know what the other person’s grief feels like from the inside. That’s not dependency. That’s a kind of knowing.”

“A kind of knowing that was never consented to,” Hobb said.

“No. And that’s what makes it tragic. The most intimate knowledge either of them will ever possess was forced on them by magic, and they have to decide whether intimacy born of coercion can become something real, or whether it’s always tainted.”

The bartender drifted past, paused, decided we didn’t need anything. Rain was coming harder against the windows. Somewhere behind the bar, someone dropped a glass and didn’t react.

“The political layer,” I said. “The crown wants to use the bond. If a healer and a spymaster are linked — if she can feel when he’s in danger, if he can feel when she’s working a difficult healing — the strategic applications are obvious. The crown sees two instruments and wants to tune them into a single weapon.”

Hobb’s mouth thinned. “This is what I know how to write, and what I want to warn you about. The system that uses people. Fitz was used by his king. Loved his king. Was used by his king. Those two facts occupied the same space for six books, and I never let them resolve. If your spymaster serves the crown, the crown will use the bond, and the crown will call it duty, and duty is the most seductive cage because the door is always open and the prisoner stays anyway.”

“The healer too,” Kleypas said. “She’ll be conscripted. Not with chains. With necessity. ‘We need you to maintain the bond. The kingdom depends on it. Your service is essential.’ And she’ll want to believe it, because the alternative is admitting she’s been turned into a sensing device for the intelligence apparatus, and that her intimacy with this man is a tool the state is wielding.”

“So when they finally come together — ” I began.

“If,” Hobb said.

“When,” Kleypas said, with the conviction of someone who has written two dozen novels about people finding each other despite everything. “When they come together, the question isn’t whether they love each other. The bond has already answered that, in ways neither of them can argue with. The question is whether they can love each other in a way that belongs to them, rather than to the crown.”

“A private language,” Hobb said quietly. “Inside a bond that was designed for surveillance.”

That landed. I could feel it land in my sternum, the way certain ideas do when they’re right — not right like an answer, right like a key fitting a lock you didn’t know was there.

“Yes. The story is about building a private language inside a system of surveillance. The bond was imposed. The politics weaponized it. But within the bond, between the two of them, there’s a space the crown can’t reach — not because it’s hidden, but because it’s in a frequency the crown doesn’t know how to listen for.”

Kleypas drank the last of her wine. “The frequency is tenderness. The crown can monitor threat, danger, pain, arousal, distress. It can’t monitor the particular warmth of someone brushing your hair off your forehead. The intimacy that reads as nothing on any instrument because it’s too small, too specific, too much about one person knowing another in a way that doesn’t translate.”

Hobb was looking out the window. The rain had shifted from steady to fitful, coming in gusts that threw water against the glass like handfuls of gravel. “I want her to be angry,” she said. “Not at the end. Not as a phase she moves through on the way to acceptance. I want her anger to be structural. I want her to love him and be furious about it simultaneously, in every scene, for the entire story. Because the bond stole her choice. She would have chosen him — maybe. Probably. But she’ll never know, because the bond chose first, and that theft is not something love repairs. Love exists alongside it. Love does not fix it.”

“I can write that,” Kleypas said. “I can write a woman who is angry and in love and refuses to pretend those are contradictory. I’ve done it. Evie Jenner walked into a gambling hell and married a dying rake to save herself, and she was furious the entire time, and she was right to be furious, and the fury didn’t make the love less real. It made it more expensive.”

“Expensive,” Hobb said. “That’s the right word. Not difficult. Not complicated. Expensive. It costs something you don’t get back.”

I looked at my notes. VIOLATION. SEDUCTION. VOLUME. PRIVATE LANGUAGE. EXPENSIVE. A map of a story I didn’t yet know how to write, drawn by two women who would have written it differently from each other and from me.

“The spymaster,” I said. “I keep coming back to what he wants. Not from the bond. From her.”

Kleypas tilted her head. “He wants her to look at him without the bond. He wants to know that if the magic disappeared tomorrow, she’d still turn toward him when he entered a room. And he can never have that certainty, because the bond is always there, always mediating, always providing a reason for every feeling she has about him that isn’t just him.”

“A man who can never be sure he’s loved for himself,” Hobb said. “Because the instrument that connected them is also the instrument that might be manufacturing the connection.”

“Is it manufacturing it?”

“It doesn’t matter. He’ll never know. And that not-knowing is the cruelest thing the bond does to him. She at least has her anger as proof — the bond didn’t make her angry, that’s authentically hers. But his tenderness, his desire, his need to protect her — he can’t be certain any of it belongs to him rather than to the magic.”

“Does it matter?” Kleypas asked. “If the feeling is real in his body, real in his choices — does the origin matter?”

“It matters to him,” Hobb said. “Whether or not it should.”

The bartender was dimming lights. The couple by the window had left. Somewhere a clock I couldn’t see marked a half hour, a bright chime that died too quickly.

“One thing I want us not to resolve,” Hobb said, and she said it the way she said most things — as though the sentence had been measured twice before being spoken. “Whether the bond is a gift. The story will want to call it a gift by the end. The reader will want it to be a gift. I need us to refuse that. It is a condition. Like weather. Like the body you were born into. You can build a life inside it. You can even find joy inside it. But calling it a gift is a lie you tell to make peace with what was done to you, and I am not interested in fiction that helps people make peace.”

Kleypas didn’t answer immediately. She turned her empty glass in the lamplight. “I’m interested in fiction where people find each other in impossible rooms,” she said. “You want to leave the room impossible. I want to fill it with two people who are more alive for being trapped together. We’re not going to agree about which of those stories is the truer one.”

“No,” Hobb said. “We’re not.”

I closed my notebook. The ink on my fingers was blue. The rain had stopped, and the sudden quiet from outside had the held-breath quality of something waiting to resume.