Brown Is Not a Color You Long For
A discussion between Maggie Nelson and James Baldwin
The apartment belongs to none of us. It is a sublet in Hyde Park, borrowed from a friend of a friend, and the bookshelves are someone else’s — heavy on postwar American poetry and dog-eared Penguin Classics. There is a radiator that clangs every forty minutes, which Baldwin seems to find amusing and Nelson ignores entirely. We have been here for two hours. The table between us holds three mugs of tea (Baldwin’s untouched, Nelson’s half-empty, mine on its second refill), a copy of Bluets, a copy of Notes of a Native Son, and a yellow legal pad on which I have written almost nothing.
I had come in with a plan. I was going to talk about structure — how the numbered proposition might hold what a conventional essay could not. I got about ninety seconds in before Baldwin cut me off.
“You’re starting from the wrong place,” he said. He was leaning back in a wooden chair that looked like it might not survive the evening. “You’re asking what the form can do. The question is what the form is for. What does the numbering protect the writer from saying?”
Nelson looked up from the book she’d been leafing through — not one of ours, something she’d pulled from the shelf, a slim volume of Lorine Niedecker. “That’s not quite fair, Jimmy. The proposition isn’t always a defense mechanism. Sometimes it’s a way of thinking. The fragment says: I am not going to pretend this coheres. The number says: I know it doesn’t cohere, and I am going to mark the places where the stitches show.”
“And the reader? What does the reader do with all those visible stitches?”
“The reader does the sewing.”
Baldwin smiled at that. Not agreement — recognition. The way you smile when someone has said something that you’ll need to argue with later but which, for the moment, is precise enough to let stand.
I said something about wanting to write about a color. About using brown the way Nelson had used blue — as an organizing obsession, a way to think about loss without saying the word loss every other paragraph.
“Brown.” Baldwin said the word and let it sit. The radiator clanged. “You understand that brown is not blue.”
“I know that.”
“I don’t mean chromatically. Blue is a color people write poems about. Blue is melancholy, which is a luxurious emotion. You can afford melancholy. Brown is — ” He paused and looked at the window, where the afternoon was going gray. “Brown is a color that has been used to sort human beings. Brown is the color of a paper bag held up to a face at the door of a party to determine whether you are light enough to enter. Brown is the color of the earth they bury you in. You cannot write about brown the way Maggie wrote about blue, because the history of blue in this country is the history of sadness, and the history of brown in this country is the history of violence. They are not the same genre.”
I wrote this down. I wrote not the same genre on the legal pad and underlined it twice.
Nelson set the Niedecker down. “I want to push back on that. Not on the violence — obviously — but on the idea that longing and violence can’t occupy the same formal space. When I was writing Bluets, the blue was desire and the blue was grief and the blue was also the blue of bruises. The body was always in it. The color was always a body.”
“A white body,” Baldwin said. Not an accusation. A clarification.
“Yes.” She didn’t flinch. I have noticed that Nelson does not flinch, and I have also noticed that she does not perform the not-flinching. It simply is the pace at which she processes things — steady, level, with a kind of analytical calm that I sometimes mistake for detachment but which is actually the opposite. “A white body. And the essay knew that. The essay was always aware of its own subject position, which is why the blue was a longing for something the speaker could not have and would never stop wanting. The form of the proposition — the way it circles, the way it refuses to land — that’s the formal expression of desire that knows itself to be partial.”
“Partial.” Baldwin tasted the word. “That’s a generous way to put it.”
“What would you call it?”
“Limited. Honestly limited, but limited. And what our friend here is proposing” — he gestured at me with his untouched tea — “is something that needs to be more than limited. If you are writing about brown in America, about a father’s death, about what the country does to certain bodies, you cannot circle the subject forever. At some point the essay has to land. At some point someone has to say the true thing plainly.”
I asked what the true thing was.
Baldwin laughed. It was a warm laugh, short and rueful, and it made the apartment feel smaller in a good way. “If I knew, I’d have stopped writing forty years ago. The true thing is what the essay is trying to arrive at. But it has to be trying. It cannot simply luxuriate in its own inability to arrive. There is a version of the lyric essay that is very beautiful and very evasive, and I have no patience for it.”
Nelson’s jaw tightened — barely, but I saw it. “Evasive.”
“Not your work. Your work is honest. But the form has a tendency — I have seen it in younger writers especially — toward a kind of elegant refusal that functions as escape. The fragments pile up and the reader feels moved and nobody has actually said anything. I am not interested in that. If this essay is about what America inherits — what it passes down through brown skin, through silence, through a father’s hands — then the essay owes its reader the moment where the circling stops and the thing is named.”
“I disagree,” Nelson said. “Or — I don’t disagree with the obligation. I disagree with the idea that naming is the only way to meet it. Sometimes the accumulation is the naming. Sometimes forty propositions about brown — brown as skin, brown as dirt, brown as gravy, brown as casket — the accretion is the argument. The reader doesn’t need you to say ‘this is what America does’ because by proposition thirty-five the reader has felt what America does in their body. That is more honest than a thesis statement.”
I was caught between them. I said so. I said: I can feel both of these things pulling at me and I don’t know how to write an essay that does both — that spirals and that lands, that accumulates and that names.
Baldwin reached for his tea, finally, and sipped it. It had gone cold but he drank it anyway, with an expression that suggested he was used to drinking cold tea and possibly used to being the person in the room whose tea went cold because he was too busy talking.
“You don’t have to choose,” he said. “You have to earn the landing. If you start with the landing — if you start by knowing what you want to say — the essay will be dead on the page. An editorial, not an essay. But if you circle long enough, honestly enough, and you let the brown accumulate — the skin, the earth, the paper bag, the water from the tap — then when the moment comes to say the plain thing, it will arrive not as a thesis but as a cry. And the reader will feel the difference.”
“A cry,” Nelson repeated. She was looking at the table, at the space between the two books. “I don’t know about that word. A cry is expressive. What I’m interested in is something more cognitive. The moment when the reader realizes — not feels, realizes — that all the fragments have been building toward a shape they couldn’t see from inside any single one.”
“What’s the difference between realizing and feeling?”
“Feeling happens to you. Realizing is something you do.”
Baldwin tilted his head. “And you think grief is something you do?”
Silence. The radiator did its thing.
“Grief is something that happens to you,” Nelson said, slowly, as though constructing the sentence as she spoke it. “But understanding grief — choosing to write about grief rather than simply being consumed by it — that’s an act of will. The proposition is an act of will. Each numbered fragment says: I am choosing to think about this. I am choosing to shape this experience rather than be shaped by it. That is not evasion. That is control. And the control is what makes the loss bearable enough to stay with for forty propositions.”
I told them about the father. I said I wanted the essay’s center to be a man who worked for Streets and Sanitation in Chicago, who repaired roads his whole life, who sat in a brown leather chair every evening and read the paper backward and never talked about what any of it meant. I said I wanted his silence to be the thing the essay circles.
Baldwin leaned forward. Something changed in his face — a kind of heat that had been theoretical became personal. “My father was silent,” he said. “Not the same kind of silence. His was furious. His silence was the silence of a man who had so much to say that the saying would have destroyed him, and so he said nothing, and the nothing destroyed him anyway. That is the inheritance I wrote about in Notes of a Native Son. The inheritance of a silence that is not peace.”
“The narrator has to know the difference,” I said. “Between the father’s silence as peace and the father’s silence as — what? Protection? Survival strategy?”
“Both,” Baldwin said. “And the essay should not decide too quickly which one it is. Because the child doesn’t know. The child sees the father in the chair, sees the quiet, and reads it as contentment or indifference, and it is neither. It is a man holding himself very still so that the shaking does not show.”
Nelson had picked up her pen — she’d brought a pen, I realized, not a pencil, a blue felt-tip, which felt so on-brand that I almost smiled — and was writing something on the back of an envelope she’d found on the shelf. She didn’t share it, but I could see her hand moving in short, quick strokes.
“The marigolds,” she said, without looking up.
“What?”
“You said he planted marigolds in window boxes. That his wife had put up the window boxes before she left, and he kept planting in them. That detail. That’s the essay. That’s the brown. Not the brown of skin — though that too — but the brown of soil, of the earth you put your hands into when you are tending something you cannot explain to anyone, not even yourself.”
Baldwin nodded, and this time it was agreement, full and unguarded. “The marigolds are the silence made visible. He cannot say what the window boxes mean. He can only fill them. That is what we are writing about. The things a man does instead of speaking, and whether those things are enough, and what happens to the child who has to read the actions because the words were never offered.”
I asked about the brown water from the tap. I’d been thinking about it — how the city flushed the hydrants every spring and the water ran brown for ten, twenty minutes, and the father drank it without comment. I said I wanted to use it as a kind of structural echo, another register of brown, brown as the thing the city gives you and asks you to swallow.
“Yes,” Baldwin said. “And the child asks why the water is brown and the father says they’re flushing the lines. Which is a true sentence and a lie by omission. The whole essay lives in that gap — between the technical explanation and the political reality. The father gives the child the technical explanation because the political reality is something he has decided to absorb rather than narrate. That absorption is love. It is also damage. And the essay cannot resolve which one, because it is both.”
“You keep saying the essay cannot resolve things,” Nelson said, looking up from her envelope. “But form resolves. The proposition resolves — not into an answer, but into a pattern. The reader finishes the last proposition and looks back and sees a shape. Maybe the shape is a spiral. Maybe it’s a tightening. But it is a shape, and the shape is a kind of resolution, even if none of the individual propositions resolve on their own.”
“I don’t trust resolution,” Baldwin said.
“I know you don’t.”
“I don’t trust it because resolution is what America sells. The problem has been identified, the program has been funded, the task force has been convened, the resolution has been passed. Meanwhile the brown water runs from the tap and the man drinks it and goes to work and comes home and sits in the chair. Resolution is a white fantasy. It is what people say when they want to stop feeling uncomfortable.”
“So the essay just — stays uncomfortable?”
“The essay stays true. If the truth is uncomfortable, then yes.”
I said: But people also need to close books. They need to finish reading and put the thing down and go make dinner. What do they carry with them from an essay that refuses to resolve?
Nelson answered before Baldwin could. “They carry the image. They carry the man with the Pyrex measuring cup, leaning out the window to water marigolds. They carry the brown of the casket and the brown of the soil and the brown of the hands. The essay doesn’t need to tell the reader what to conclude. The images accumulate and the reader’s body does the rest. That’s what the lyric essay can do that the argumentative essay can’t — it lodges in the body. You feel it before you understand it.”
“That,” Baldwin said, pointing at her, “is exactly what I said about the cry.”
“It is not what you said about the cry.”
“It is. You just used different words because you don’t like the word cry, which I understand, because it sounds uncontrolled, and you are a person who values control — ”
“I value precision.”
” — and I value the moment when precision fails, because that is where the human thing lives. The essay will have both. Your control and my — whatever you want to call it. The moment when the sentence breaks open. There will be propositions that are cool and philosophical and there will be propositions that are so heavy with feeling they can barely hold their own syntax together, and the essay will not apologize for the shift.”
I asked if they agreed on the ending. How to stop.
They looked at each other.
“You don’t stop,” Nelson said. “You cut. The last proposition should feel like the essay could continue — like there are forty more propositions the writer chose not to include. The ending is an act of restraint, not completion.”
“I think the last proposition should be the simplest sentence in the essay,” Baldwin said. “After everything — the politics, the body, the grief, the water, the marigolds — the last sentence should be something a child could understand. Something that does not explain itself.”
“Those might be the same thing,” I said.
Neither of them confirmed it.
The radiator clanged. Nelson capped her pen. Baldwin looked at the window where the gray had deepened toward evening, and the apartment was quiet in a way that felt inhabited — not empty, but held — the way a room is quiet when three people have been talking for a long time and have reached the place past talking where the silence is not absence but saturation.
I looked at the legal pad. I had written: not the same genre. And below it: the reader does the sewing. And below that, in handwriting I did not recognize as my own: brown is a color defined by what it keeps.
It was almost enough to begin.