The Brochure Does Not Mention the Soil
A discussion between Silvia Moreno-Garcia and Tanarive Due
We met at a café in New Orleans that Moreno-Garcia had chosen because it was inside a converted sugar warehouse. The renovation was good — exposed beams, industrial pendant lights, a cocktail menu printed on card stock the color of raw linen — but the bones of the building were still there if you knew what to look for. The loading dock had become a patio. The ventilation slats in the upper walls, designed to move air through stored cane, were now decorative. Our table sat where product would have been weighed and graded.
“They kept the hook,” Moreno-Garcia said, pointing at the ceiling. A rusted iron hook hung from a crossbeam, painted over in matte black. A fern dangled from it in a macramé hanger. “That’s a hoist hook. For lifting barrels or bales. They made it a planter.”
I ordered coffee. Due was studying the menu without reading it, the way you study something when you’re thinking about something else entirely. She set it down and said, “My grandmother would have known this building.”
It was not a casual remark. She let it sit. Moreno-Garcia looked at her, waited.
“Not this one specifically. But buildings like it. She grew up in Belle Glade, Florida. Sugar country. Lake Okeechobee. The cane processing facilities there looked exactly like this before somebody decided they were charming. She didn’t find them charming.”
“Nobody who worked in them would,” Moreno-Garcia said. “That’s the whole trick of the repurposing. You clean the surface and you change the function and you charge twenty-two dollars for a mezcal cocktail, and the building becomes about your experience of it rather than about what it was. The architecture is the same. The purpose is inverted. A place designed to process extracted labor becomes a place designed to extract disposable income.”
I had brought notes about the story — the graduate student, the sugar estate turned boutique hotel, the cane fields marketed as heritage tourism. I started to lay out the premise, but Moreno-Garcia put her hand flat on the table the way you’d put your hand on a document to hold it still.
“The hotel,” she said. “The hotel is the organism. That’s what I need you to understand before we talk about anything else. In Mexican Gothic, the house is not a setting — the house is the antagonist. It breathes. It feeds. It has biological processes. The fungal network beneath it is its nervous system, and the family living inside it are its organs, and the bride they bring in is — well, she’s food. Or she’s a cell the organism is trying to incorporate. The house is alive and the house is hungry and the marriage is digestion.”
“I’m with you on the living building,” Due said. “But the biology is where we part. What you’re describing is body horror with architecture. The house eats. The fungi infect. The family is a parasite. That’s visceral and it works for what you do. But the kind of haunting I’m interested in doesn’t have a biological mechanism. It doesn’t need one. The ghost isn’t a spore. The ghost is a fact that everyone in the community knows and no one will say out loud.”
“Why not both?” I said.
They looked at me with identical expressions — the look two people give you when you’ve proposed the obvious thing that only a person who doesn’t fully understand either position would propose.
“Because they work against each other,” Moreno-Garcia said. “If the plantation soil has a biological explanation — if the cane has absorbed something, if the processing chemicals have altered the ecosystem, if there’s a mycological dimension — then the horror has a mechanism. It’s discoverable. Your graduate student can study it, publish about it, bring in a lab. The horror is material, and material horror can be fought.”
“And if the haunting is communal memory,” Due said, “if the town knows what happened on that land and has decided not to speak of it, then the horror is social. It’s relational. You can’t bring a lab to a silence. You can’t run tests on a community’s agreement not to remember. The horror is that everyone around you knows a thing you don’t know and has organized their lives around not knowing it, and the organization is so thorough that the silence has become structural. It holds the town up. Remove it and something collapses.”
“So what happens when the graduate student arrives?” I asked.
“She starts digging,” Moreno-Garcia said. “Literally. She’s studying colonial agriculture. She wants soil samples. She wants to understand what monoculture sugar cultivation does to land over centuries — the depletion, the chemical signatures, what the cane takes from the earth and what it leaves behind. She’s a scientist. She believes in material evidence.”
“And the hotel doesn’t want her digging,” I said.
“The hotel doesn’t care about her digging. The hotel has already processed the land’s history into a product. The old boiling house is a spa. The overseer’s cottage is a gift shop. The cane fields have been replanted in neat rows with interpretive signage — ‘Heritage Cane Walk, 45 minutes, moderate difficulty.’ The hotel doesn’t hide the plantation’s past. It sells it. That’s worse than hiding it. That’s the move that makes me lose my mind.”
Due leaned forward. “It’s worse because it forecloses on the haunting. A place that hides its past can still be haunted — the hidden thing pushes back, comes up through the floorboards, appears at the edges. But a place that’s curated its past, that’s put its past in a glass case and written a placard for it? That place has performed a kind of exorcism. It’s said: here is the history, we acknowledge it, it’s part of our brand. Now buy a candle.”
“Except the exorcism doesn’t work,” I said.
“Right. It doesn’t work. Because the history they’ve curated is not the history. The brochure mentions sugarcane agriculture and the colonial period and the labor conditions of the eighteenth century, and it uses words like ‘heritage’ and ‘legacy’ and ‘complicated past.’ What it doesn’t mention is the soil.”
“The soil,” Moreno-Garcia repeated, and something shifted in her posture — a settling, like a predator finding its angle.
“The soil is where everything you’re both talking about converges. Silvia, you want the land to have a biological dimension — something material, something the graduate student can study. Tanarive, you want the community to be carrying a silence. What if both are true? What if the soil is genuinely different — measurably, chemically, biologically different — because of what was done on that land? Not metaphorically different. Actually different. The centuries of forced labor, the blood, the ash from burning the fields, the lye from the processing, the bodies that were buried without markers — all of that went into the earth. And the earth is different now. The cane that grows there is different. The water table is different. Something about the root system—”
“You’re making the ghost biological again,” Due said. “You’re giving it a mechanism.”
“Am I? Or am I saying that the mechanism and the haunting are the same thing? That there’s no line between ‘this soil has a different chemical composition because human remains were composted into it for two hundred years’ and ‘this land is haunted’? That the graduate student’s scientific findings and the community’s silence are two descriptions of the same fact?”
Moreno-Garcia picked up her coffee, put it down without drinking. “In Mexican Gothic, the mushrooms are both. They’re a real organism — you could put them under a microscope, classify them, name them. And they’re the mechanism of the haunting. The family’s continuity, their control, their ability to consume outsiders — all of it runs through the fungal network. The biology is the Gothic. I didn’t separate them.”
“But your protagonist could fight the mushrooms,” Due said. “She could physically resist. She burned the house down. She destroyed the organism. Your Gothic has an immune response — infect, resist, destroy. Mine doesn’t have that. In Ghost Summer, the children go to the small town and they swim in the lake and they learn what happened, and there is no burning down the lake. There is no destroying the water. The water is the water. It has what it has in it. The children can leave — they do leave — but the lake stays, and the town stays, and the agreement not to speak stays. Nobody wins.”
“Nobody wins in my book either.”
“Your protagonist survives.”
“Surviving isn’t winning.”
“Surviving is more than my ghosts get.”
There was a silence that lasted long enough for me to register the espresso machine behind the counter, the hiss and gurgle of it, the barista’s practiced movements. The café was filling up. A couple sat down at the next table and began discussing whether to order avocado toast, and the ordinariness of the discussion was obscene in context, which was exactly the point Due had been making about the hotel — the performed normalcy, the refusal of the building’s memory.
“The graduate student,” I said. “What does she find?”
“Wrong question,” Due said. “The question is: what does everyone else already know? She arrives thinking she’s the discoverer. She has her research proposal and her soil sampling kit and her fellowship funding. She’s there to study agricultural history. She thinks she’s the first serious person to look at this land. And everyone around her — the hotel staff, the groundskeeper, the woman who runs the gift shop, the older man in the nearest town who rents her lab equipment — they all already know what she’s looking for. They’ve known for generations. They just don’t have her vocabulary for it.”
“Or they have a better vocabulary,” Moreno-Garcia said. “They don’t call it soil chemistry. They call it bad ground. They call it sick land. They say the cane on the north field grows wrong. They say don’t eat fruit from the east orchard. They say don’t swim in the retention pond. These aren’t superstitions. These are empirical observations accumulated over centuries by people who the graduate student’s academic framework would classify as non-experts.”
“And she doesn’t listen.”
“She listens. She records. She puts their observations in her field notes as ‘local knowledge’ and ‘community oral history.’ She treats it as data to be verified. She is respectful. She is progressive. She cites indigenous knowledge systems in her methodology section. And she still doesn’t hear what they’re actually telling her, because what they’re telling her is: this land did something to the people who worked it, and the something is still happening, and no amount of soil sampling will give you a number for it.”
I was writing fast, but not fast enough. Something was escaping me — not the details but the quality of what was being said, the specific tension between two ways of understanding what a haunted place is.
“I keep coming back to the cane,” I said. “The replanted heritage cane. It’s ornamental now — the hotel planted it for the walking tour. But it’s real cane. It grows. It has roots in the same soil. And if the soil is what you’re both saying it is—”
“Then the heritage cane is feeding on the same thing the original cane fed on,” Moreno-Garcia said. “Which was never just soil. Sugar monoculture doesn’t just deplete — it transforms. The processing leaves chemical residue. The burning leaves carbon layers. And if we’re being honest about what happened on sugar plantations, the organic material in that ground includes—”
“Human remains,” Due said flatly. “You don’t have to circle it. People were worked to death on sugar plantations at rates that made cotton look humane. Life expectancy was seven years in some Caribbean operations. Seven years from arrival to death. And the dead weren’t transported elsewhere. They were buried on the land. Or not buried. Left. And the cane grew over them.”
“And now the hotel has replanted the cane in neat rows with a walking path and a placard.”
“And now the hotel has replanted the cane.”
We sat with that. The couple next to us had received their avocado toast. Moreno-Garcia watched them eat for a moment with an expression I couldn’t read — not contempt, not disgust, something closer to the look of a biologist observing an organism that hasn’t yet noticed its environment has changed.
“The hotel has to be oblivious,” she said. “Not malicious. The owners are not villains twirling their mustaches. They are well-meaning people who purchased a property and saw its potential and hired a consultant who told them that heritage tourism is the fastest-growing sector and that authenticity sells. They preserved the original structures out of genuine respect. They planted heritage cane because the consultant suggested it. They are not hiding anything because they genuinely believe there is nothing to hide. The colonial period is a chapter in a textbook. They’ve read it. They’ve installed a plaque.”
“And the graduate student?”
“The graduate student is also not the hero. That’s essential. She is not the enlightened outsider who arrives and sees what the ignorant locals cannot see. The locals see everything. They see more than she does. She is the one who is ignorant — not of history, not of politics, not of the moral dimensions of plantation heritage — she has read all the scholarship — but of the specific, material, daily reality of living on ground that has been fed a particular diet for three hundred years. She knows the theory. They know the soil.”
Due was looking at the iron hook above our heads. The fern turned slowly in whatever current moved through the renovated warehouse.
“The children in Ghost Summer,” she said. “They’re told not to swim in the lake. The adults say it’s dangerous — currents, depth, snapping turtles, whatever excuse. The children swim anyway, because children do. And in the water they learn things. Not through any supernatural mechanism — or not only through one. They learn through their bodies. The water is cold where it shouldn’t be cold. The mud at the bottom has a texture that their feet interpret before their minds do. They come out of the water knowing something they didn’t know before, and they can’t articulate it, and the adults look at them and recognize the knowledge and still don’t name it.”
“The graduate student should have that moment,” I said. “Not in water. In the soil. She takes her samples. She processes them. The data is strange — unusual mineral composition, anomalous organic signatures, something the equipment flags but can’t categorize. And she knows, in her hands, before the analysis is complete, that the soil is wrong. Not contaminated in any way her training covers. Wrong in a way that her body recognizes and her methodology can’t accommodate.”
“And what does she do with that knowledge?” Due asked. Not rhetorically. She was asking me. Both of them were looking at me, and the question was not about the character but about me, about what kind of story I was going to write, about whether I would let the graduate student’s knowledge remain unresolved or whether I would find some mechanism — biological, supernatural, narrative — to contain it.
“I don’t know,” I said.
“Good,” Due said. “Don’t know yet. Knowing too early is how you end up with a thesis instead of a haunting.”
Moreno-Garcia finished her coffee. She set the cup on its saucer with a precision that reminded me of someone placing a specimen on a slide. “The hotel should have a smell,” she said. “Not a bad smell. A sweet smell. The guests love it. They think it’s the flowers, the tropical landscaping, some kind of botanical air freshener. The staff doesn’t comment on it. The graduate student, after weeks there, starts to recognize it. It’s not flowers. It’s cane. Not fresh cane — processed cane. The smell of sugar being boiled. The smell of the old operation, still coming up through the soil, through the foundations, through the roots of whatever is growing on that ground. The building has been repurposed but the process hasn’t stopped. The land is still processing.”
“And nobody mentions the smell.”
“Everyone mentions the smell. They mention how lovely it is. They put it in their five-star reviews. ‘The grounds have this incredible sweet fragrance — like being surrounded by nature.’ The smell is in the brochure. The brochure does not mention what’s producing it.”
Due stood and dropped money on the table. “I’ll leave you with one thing,” she said. “The most frightening scene in any ghost story is not the apparition. It’s the scene where the protagonist describes the apparition to a local and the local nods. Not with surprise. Not with fear. With recognition. The nod that says: yes, we know. We’ve always known. And then they change the subject, because knowing and speaking are different things, and this community made its choice about which one to do a long time ago.”
She left. The café noise closed around the space where she’d been — music, conversation, the thud of a portafilter against a knockbox.
Moreno-Garcia stayed. She was looking at the walls, at the beams, at the place where the loading dock doors had been sealed and plastered and painted a tasteful grey.
“The fungal network in Mexican Gothic,” she said. “People read it as a metaphor for colonialism. The English family implanting themselves in Mexican soil, extending their root system, feeding on the local population. Fine. That reading is available. But it was never only a metaphor. The mushrooms were real. They were a real organism doing a real thing. The horror wasn’t that colonialism is like a fungal infection. The horror was that a fungal infection was happening, materially, in the walls and floors and food and bodies, and the family had been living with it so long they’d stopped noticing. The metaphor was a bonus. The organism was the story.”
“So for the sugar estate—”
“For the sugar estate, the organism is the cane. Not magical cane. Not possessed cane. Agricultural cane, doing what cane does, which is grow aggressively and take everything from the soil and transform it into something sweet that people extract at great cost. The cane has been doing this for three hundred years. It has been fed a specific diet. And now it has been replanted in heritage rows by people who thought they were planting a decoration, and it is growing, and it is feeding, and it is producing that smell, and nobody is asking what it is feeding on because the brochure doesn’t cover that section of the operation.”
She stood, buttoned her jacket, looked once more at the iron hook with its hanging fern.
“Make sure the graduate student is good at her work,” she said. “Not brilliant. Good. Competent. Thorough. The kind of researcher who follows her methodology even when the data starts to frighten her. Especially when the data starts to frighten her. Because the methodology is her version of the community’s silence — it’s the structure that keeps the unbearable at a manageable distance. Her charts and her sample labels and her footnotes are doing the same work as the town’s agreement not to speak. They are ways of knowing without having to know.”
She left. I sat in the converted sugar warehouse with my notebook and my cold coffee and the iron hoist hook above me and the sweet smell of whatever was in the air — the espresso machine, the pastry case, the building itself — and I thought about soil, about what goes into it and what comes up from it, about the difference between a place that has been repurposed and a place that has been reckoned with, and about how you write a story set in the gap between those two things without closing the gap yourself, without providing the reckoning that the place refuses to perform.
The fern on the hook turned, very slowly, in a draft I couldn’t feel.