Two Speeds of Vanishing
A discussion between Hunter S. Thompson and John McPhee
Thompson was already at the bar when I arrived, which surprised me, because the place didn’t open for another forty minutes. He’d found the owner smoking in the parking lot at nine-fifteen and talked his way inside by claiming to be waiting for a geologist. “I told him we were consulting on a water-rights issue,” Thompson said, not looking up from the notebook he was writing in with a felt-tip pen. “He didn’t ask any follow-up questions. People in dying towns never ask follow-up questions. They just want someone to be there.”
The bar was called Rosie’s, though no one named Rosie had owned it in decades. It sat at a crossroads in the Ozarks, one of those junctions where two county highways met without a traffic light, and the building’s original purpose — feed store, post office, dance hall — had been overwritten so many times that the architecture was a palimpsest of nails and drywall patches. A Hamm’s Beer sign from the 1970s buzzed in the window. The ceiling tiles were water-stained in patterns that looked deliberate, like a Rorschach test administered by weather.
McPhee arrived on foot. He’d been walking since dawn, he told us later, though he didn’t say that immediately. He came through the door carrying a small spiral notebook and what turned out to be a hand-drawn map of the surrounding drainage basins, and he sat down at the bar without ordering anything and said, “The karst topography here is extraordinary. The whole ridge is Swiss cheese. People have been losing livestock into sinkholes since the 1840s.”
“That’s a hell of an opening line,” Thompson said. “You walk into a bar in Missouri and lead with sinkholes.”
“It’s relevant. You can’t write about people who live in a place without understanding the ground they’re standing on. In this case, the ground is actively disappearing beneath them. That seems important.”
I had brought them together because the story I was trying to figure out demanded both of them — not their permission, obviously, but their instincts, the way each of them would walk into the same situation and see it completely differently. I’d been reporting, on and off for almost a year, on the last generation of unlicensed low-power AM radio operators in the rural Midwest. Not pirate radio in the usual sense — not political, not punk, not ideological. These were old men, mostly, running transmitters they’d built from kits or salvaged from defunct stations, broadcasting crop reports and obituaries and weather and local basketball scores and gospel music to a listening radius of maybe fifteen miles. The FCC had been fining them for decades and had mostly given up. The operators were dying faster than the agency could process enforcement actions.
“Wait,” Thompson said. He put down the pen. “These guys are outlaws?”
“Technically. The FCC considers them — ”
“No, I mean — are they outlaws? Do they see themselves that way? Because there’s a difference between a man who breaks the law because he’s against the law and a man who breaks the law because the law hasn’t gotten around to him yet. The Angels knew they were outlaws. They cultivated it. They wore it. If your radio guys are just old farmers who don’t know they need a license, that’s a different story. That’s not interesting the same way.”
“Some of them know,” I said. “One of them, a man named Dale Otterbein in Laclede County, has been fined four times. He pays the fine and goes back on the air the next morning. He says the First Amendment covers him. He’s wrong about that legally, but he’s not confused about what he’s doing.”
“Dale Otterbein,” Thompson repeated, and wrote the name down. “Good. That’s a man with a position. What does he broadcast?”
“Obituaries, mostly. He reads the obituaries from the county paper every morning at seven, then again at noon, then the weather, then the farm reports from the extension office. On Sundays he plays gospel records. He has a collection of 78s — Stamps-Baxter quartet recordings, Carter Family, some things I couldn’t identify. He plays them on a turntable that’s wired directly into the transmitter. The sound quality is — ”
“Terrible,” McPhee said.
“Beautiful,” I said. “Or both. The signal drifts. There’s a hum underneath everything. The records are scratched. But there’s something in it — the sound of a voice coming through a machine that a man built himself, reaching across fifteen miles of cow pasture and cedar ridge, saying ‘Harold Franklin Jessup, born 1931, died last Tuesday, service at First Baptist on Saturday, everyone welcome.’ It sounds like something that’s been going on for a hundred years. It sounds old.”
McPhee nodded slowly. He’d opened his notebook and was drawing something — a diagram, I realized later, of a low-power AM transmitter’s signal propagation over ridged terrain. “How many of them are left?”
“I’ve found eleven. There may be more I haven’t found. The whole point is that they’re hard to find. You have to drive through the broadcast area and scan the low end of the AM dial. I’ve been driving for months.”
“Good,” McPhee said. “That’s how you find the Pine Barrens too. You drive until the road stops and then you walk. The people who live in places the infrastructure forgot — they’re not hiding, exactly. They’re just where they’ve always been. The world moved and they didn’t.”
Thompson shook his head. “That’s too passive. That’s the noble hermit story. ‘Oh, the simple folk, persisting in their simple way while modernity roars past.’ That’s condescending, John. These guys are broadcasting. They’re not sitting in a cabin waiting to be discovered by some journalist who thinks rural poverty is picturesque. They built transmitters. They go on the air every day. They’re doing something.”
“I didn’t say they weren’t doing something. I said they didn’t move. There’s a difference between persistence and passivity. The people I wrote about in the Pine Barrens — they weren’t passive. They were making charcoal, gathering sphagnum moss, trapping, farming cranberries. They had a complete economy that outsiders couldn’t see because it didn’t look like an economy. Your motorcycle gang was performing rebellion for an audience. These radio operators — they’re not performing anything. They’re providing a service to a community that no one else will serve.”
“Performance,” Thompson said, leaning forward. “That’s the word. That’s exactly the word. Because when Dale Otterbein reads the obituaries into a microphone he built from a kit, alone in a room in his house at seven in the morning, there’s no audience in front of him. The audience is dispersed. Invisible. He has to imagine them. And the act of imagining an audience while you broadcast into empty air — that’s the most American thing I’ve ever heard. That’s lonelier than anything I ever saw on the road with the Angels.”
I felt something shift. The conversation had been circling the subject like two dogs sniffing the same post from opposite sides, and now they’d both arrived at something — not the same thing, but the same territory. Loneliness. The loneliness of the broadcast. The loneliness of persisting in a place that history has moved past.
“I want to talk about form,” I said, because I knew if I didn’t steer us there now, Thompson would order bourbon and we’d lose the morning to anecdotes. “This piece has a structural constraint I can’t get around. It needs to take the form of a document. Not a conventional narrative — a report, or a log, or a transcript, or some kind of found document. The story has to be the document.”
McPhee set down his pen. His face changed — not disapproval exactly, but the careful attention of someone who has spent decades thinking about structure and suspects you’re about to propose something reckless. “What kind of document?”
“I don’t know yet. That’s what I need help with.”
“An FCC enforcement file,” Thompson said immediately. “The whole story is the government file on these guys. Inspection reports, field observations, correspondence. The bureaucracy documenting the outlaws. You get the absurdity built right into the form — some GS-12 in an office in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, writing memos about Dale Otterbein’s obituary broadcasts.”
“That gives you only one perspective,” McPhee said. “The government’s perspective. You lose the operators entirely. They become the subject of someone else’s documentation. I’m not sure that’s — ”
“You don’t lose them. Their voices come through. The field agent has to describe what he observed. The broadcasts are documented — there’d be transcripts, recordings. You can hear them through the bureaucratic language. That’s the point. The tension between what they’re doing and how it gets described by the system that’s trying to shut them down.”
McPhee was quiet for a long moment. He turned to a fresh page in his notebook and drew a vertical line down the center. On the left he wrote WHAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS. On the right he wrote WHAT THE PLACE IS. “The risk,” he said, “is that the document form becomes a cage. You trap the material in a single register — bureaucratic language — and the reader never gets to hear the thing that matters, which is what the broadcast sounds like, what the landscape looks like at dawn when a man turns on a transmitter, what the community feels like when it hears that Harold Jessup is dead.”
“So you break the form,” I said.
“No. You don’t break the form. If the constraint is that the story is a document, then the document has to contain those textures without violating its own logic. An FCC file wouldn’t contain lyric descriptions of the Ozark dawn. But it might contain a field agent’s notes. And a field agent, if he’s there for three days, starts writing things down that don’t belong in the file. Observations that are technically irrelevant. The quality of light. The sound of the broadcast heard from the driveway while he’s deciding whether to knock on the door.”
“You’re turning the field agent into a journalist,” Thompson said. He was grinning. “You’re making the government inspector into one of us.”
“Not into one of you. Into a person. A person with eyes and ears who was sent to document a violation and found himself documenting a world. There’s a difference.”
Thompson stood up and walked to the window. The parking lot outside held four vehicles — my rental, Thompson’s red convertible (I did not ask), McPhee’s — I didn’t actually know how McPhee had arrived. The owner’s truck. Beyond the lot, a hill covered in cedar and scrub oak, and beyond that a sky the color of old milk.
“The problem with the document form,” Thompson said, still facing the window, “is that it removes me from the page. I mean the first person. The I. The reporter as participant. That’s the whole engine. I can’t do what I do inside a government form.”
“You can if the form cracks,” I said. “If the field agent starts to lose his professional distance — ”
“That’s my point. The form cracks. It always cracks. The Angels cracked me. I went in as a reporter and came out as someone who’d been beaten by the people he was writing about. The form of objective journalism cracked against the reality of what I was embedded in. And what came out through the crack was the best writing I ever did. So fine — make it a document. But the document has to crack. Something has to break through the bureaucratic surface.”
“Or the document accumulates,” McPhee said, “and the crack is in the reader, not the text. The document remains a document. It holds its form. But the reader, reading field report after field report, begins to see what the document cannot say. The gap between the official language and the reality it’s describing — the reader fills that gap. You don’t have to break the form to break the reader.”
I wrote that down. The gap between the official language and the reality it’s describing. The reader fills the gap.
“Who are these field agents?” McPhee asked. “Are they real?”
“The FCC’s Enforcement Bureau sends field agents for unlicensed broadcasting complaints. They’re real. They drive to the location, they use direction-finding equipment to locate the transmitter, they document the violation, they issue a warning or a fine. Most of them are engineers. They’re not writers. Their reports are technical — frequency, power output, antenna type, distance to nearest licensed station.”
“And yet they’re in the room,” McPhee said. “They’re standing in Dale Otterbein’s house, looking at his transmitter, and they have to describe it. A man’s life’s work. The shelves of 78s. The soldering iron. The antenna he bolted to the roof himself. They have to reduce all of that to a spectrum violation. That’s your story.”
“That’s one story,” Thompson said. He came back from the window and sat down. “The other story is what happens to the field agent. Because nobody goes into the Ozarks and documents a man reading obituaries into a homemade transmitter and comes out the same bureaucrat who went in. Something happens to you in those places. The strangeness gets in. I lived with the Angels for a year and I came out of it changed in ways I still don’t fully understand. If your field agent spends three days documenting Dale Otterbein’s broadcast, that agent is going to start listening. And once you start listening — actually listening, not monitoring a frequency — you’re not an agent anymore. You’re an audience.”
“And the document can’t contain that transformation,” I said.
“The document can try,” McPhee said. “That’s where the structure gets interesting. A field report that begins as a technical inspection and, over the course of its pages, starts admitting details that have no regulatory relevance. The length of the shadows on the kitchen table. The way the operator’s hands shake when he adjusts the dial. The names of the dead. The report doesn’t crack — it stretches. It accommodates more than it was designed to hold.”
“Like a sinkhole,” I said, and McPhee actually smiled.
Thompson took a drink of something — coffee, I think, though it was in a rocks glass. “There’s something else. These operators are dying. You said they’re the last generation. So there’s a clock on this. The FCC file on each one eventually gets a final entry: operator deceased, station silent, enforcement action closed. The document ends the way all government documents about people end — with a notation that the person is no longer a person for administrative purposes. That’s monstrous and completely ordinary and you have to let it just sit there on the page without commentary.”
“Without commentary,” McPhee agreed.
“I hate that,” I said. “I want to editorialize. I want to write the sentence about what it means when the last transmitter goes silent.”
“Of course you do,” Thompson said. “And that’s why the document form is going to be good for you. It won’t let you. The form will stop you from making the easy move. The sentimental move. You’ll have to let the silence do its own work.”
“The silence and the frequency data,” McPhee said. “The field report will note the frequency. 1240 AM, or 1600 AM, whatever it is. And that frequency will just — be empty. After. The report won’t say ‘the frequency fell silent, and with it a way of life.’ The report will say ‘subsequent monitoring of 1240 kHz revealed no unauthorized transmissions.’ And the reader will do the rest.”
I looked at my notes. I had three pages of scrawl and a feeling that I was on the edge of something and might not be able to hold it. The form-as-cage that becomes form-as-revelation. The federal inspector who starts as an adversary and becomes the last witness. The dead air on a frequency that used to carry the names of the dead.
“One more thing,” Thompson said. He was putting on his jacket, which meant we were losing him. “Don’t make the operators noble. Don’t make them saints of the airwaves. Some of them are probably boring. Some of them are probably cranks. Dale Otterbein might be an incredible pain in the ass. The Angels were criminals. They were also, many of them, petty and dull and cruel. I wrote about them as they were. That’s the only deal that matters.”
“And the landscape,” McPhee said, standing as well, folding his map along its creases. “Don’t let the people eat the landscape. The karst. The sinkholes. The cedar ridges. The drainage. The ground these transmitters sit on is a hundred million years old and it’s dissolving. That’s not metaphor — it’s limestone hydrology. Give it the same weight as the human story. The ground was there first. It will be there after.”
They left separately. Thompson to the parking lot, McPhee on foot back toward wherever he’d been mapping that morning. I sat at the bar in Rosie’s and listened to the Hamm’s sign buzz and thought about a document that tries to contain a vanishing and discovers it cannot, and what leaks through the edges.
The owner came back in and asked if I wanted anything. I asked if there was a radio. He pointed to a shelf behind the bottles — an old GE transistor, beige plastic, covered in dust. I turned it on and scanned the low end of the AM dial. Static, static, static, and then, for just a moment, a voice reading a name I didn’t catch before the signal dissolved into hiss.